1U amp for tops

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16 years 4 months ago #2862 by mookieman
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hi

looking for a 1u amp to run 2 x 50w compression horns was looking at the carlsbro powerline cp200 has anyone got one ,are they any good?

also is there any other 1U amps out there for under £150
cheers

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16 years 4 months ago #2887 by class d
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first time on this forum as regards 1u amplifiers we are introducing one shortly up to 1000 watts per channel

This is not a far eastern product but uk designed and manufactured.

These all run with our own brand of lateral mosfets which has dramatically reduced instability problems other brands suffer with.

We also have available a whole range of modules up to 1000 watts in power

For your application we have a small module which will easily do 150 watts plus and is only 2inches by 3 inches.

Please note these are linear amps so none of the class d amplifier type problem ie noise and warbles.

Class d are fine in certain limited applications but a nightmare in the real world

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16 years 4 months ago #2895 by ginger_biscuit69
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class d wrote: first time on this forum as regards 1u amplifiers we are introducing one shortly up to 1000 watts per channel

This is not a far eastern product but uk designed and manufactured.

These all run with our own brand of lateral mosfets which has dramatically reduced instability problems other brands suffer with.

We also have available a whole range of modules up to 1000 watts in power

For your application we have a small module which will easily do 150 watts plus and is only 2inches by 3 inches.

Please note these are linear amps so none of the class d amplifier type problem ie noise and warbles.

Class d are fine in certain limited applications but a nightmare in the real world



ummmmm, ure joking us? you are the real class D? your company is a mockery on this site. you here to learn how to make real speakers? your 15" and dual 15" range is the worst speaker ive ever used. even the dual 15" has a MASSIVE frequency dip 200-1200hz, which on most dual 15" cabs would be a peak! you dont even use crossovers!

''class d amplifier type problem ie noise and warbles'' - thats not the amplifier class, thats the crap build quality of your pricerange competitors products.

btw, welcome to the forum, hope you learn something [img]smileys/smiley17.gif[/img]

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16 years 4 months ago #2896 by class d
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Amusing we do not boast or brag or show of how clever we are


However we do sell 500 pairs of speakers per monthminimum we make no secret that we cater for the budget end but if you spoke to our customer base you would feel sick in 4 years we have not had one dissatisfied customer our repeat business is phenomenal and our back up service is second to none we repair and replace with no quibble can your top end suppliers say that. I,ll answer for you no "they cannot we deal with them so we know


How many speakersdo you sell

Our speakers are all over the place on the television and used by some very well known people

We have got more small bands going than anyone else we have replaced top name brands with bands who quite openly say they have been ripped of by the well known names.

Do you think a small band or a disco is interested in a peak at 200hz or in your case a dip

Of course we could all massage our ego,s like you sit there sl*gging of and really spouting over nothing

I suppose your an advocate of all the so called top end products the laugh is they all buy from the same factories as us but rip everybody of with extortionate prices and markups.

It may be of interest to you but we are about to manufacture a full range of birch ply speakers totally uk made and also supply our own amps with them again UK made

So basically stick your insults where a monkey sticks his nuts, if you want an intelligent conversation please feel free we are more than happy to listen and take advice

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16 years 4 months ago #2897 by class d
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''class d amplifier type problem ie noise and warbles'' - thats not the amplifier class, thats the crap build quality of your pricerange competitors products.


As an addenda your purile remarks, it simply displays your absolute lack of knowledge of class d amplifiers if you had the any knowledge at all you would at least pass some useful comment

I Suggest you start by finding out what a heterodyne is, or maybein your casea canary would be simpler) Their usually yellow and peck you if they don,t like you)

Howeverif you would like some constuctive advice please ask

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16 years 4 months ago #2898 by ginger_biscuit69
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ive never had any expensive top end kit. built a rig myself with excellent results, and have since packed in the sound game.

i know plenty of dissatified customers of your products. i have no doubt you sell millions of these cabs, but that doesnt mean anything. The kit ive used of yours has been bought by small bands, who have no technical knowledge. I (a freelance sound engineer) go to work for them, and they ask why it doesnt sound like 'X' band they saw somewhere else, as they have a 'bigger more impressive stack'. Its then down to me to explain that quality components, design and build are what make the sound what it is.

i dont sell speakers, so none...

I can quite deffinately say you have not replaced any top brands, just saturated the lowbudget market, competiting with brandssuch as skytech and soundlab with more piezo andchipboard creations.

most bands and dj's may not realise what a dip at 200hz means, but an AB comparrison of two speakers would easily show it. If they knew that this frequencyrange iswhere the clarity of the drum hits, 'melody' of the bass is, and warmth of the vocals, they would realise how important it is. Without it you get one note boomy bass (in your speakers this is 80hz), and heavy harsh trebble, effectively like a giant battery powered radio.

As a speaker designer you are striving to achieve the flatest response possible over the given frequency range, whilst compromising over size weight budget and efficiency. The reason other top brand 'overpriced' speakers sound good, is they use quality materials, and good design to achieve this. R&D andproper manufacture is a costly process, and is reflected in their prices.

service wise, yes, every top brand will repair or replace faulty equipment. Ive dealt with EV, turbosound, function1 and even carlsbro, all of which have been excellent, with a maximum of 1week turnover.

I really cannot believe you do anything more than test and package your products in the UK. At your prices, its just not viable in the UK.

i look forward to seeing your new ranges, and would very much be interested in performing independant testing of these.

im also curious as to how you measure the performance of your cabinets. Trade laws mean you must provide accurate information. What measurement setup do you use, or is this job subcontracted?

do you know what 40-20khz [+-3db] means?

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16 years 4 months ago #2899 by ginger_biscuit69
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heterodyne principles eh? - bit overkill researching this for budget equipment.

This does not effect the human hearing range of 20-20khz. the upper modulationsare well above 30khz in most cases, and thus not amplified, nor audible even if it was. Would piss off some animals at worst.

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16 years 4 months ago #2900 by class d
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This does not effect the human hearing range of 20-20khz. the upper modulationsare well above 30khz in most cases, and thus not amplified, nor audible even if it was. Would piss off some animals at wors


with an engineers hat onI would agree with that remark, but actually from how it sounds you are totally wrong such a thing as IMD and this does have a significant effect both good and bad

Our amplifiers are flat 50khz

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16 years 4 months ago #2901 by class d
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As regards all the companies you mention the only one that justifies the cost is Function one they offer a fantastic service and products a really good and genuine uk business

They also do spend on RD, the others don,t the vast majority are made in China

Ask martin audio who have just been ripped of by Martin brothers A classic example of stupid greed and bad business

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16 years 4 months ago #2902 by class d
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A lot of your comments are really stupid 99% of customers have no interest whatsover in what you are talking about.

The 1% are more than welcome to spend 4 times as much on something that is not appreciably better but keeps their ego intact.

If you knew some of the people we supply you would cringe

They visit our showroom listen to product we do not set the canary on them

They only buy if they want to.

over 90% of our customers visit the showroom and listen to the products we do not force them to buy

What they look for is nice sound, good price, loudness and service and thats exactly what theyget that!They have no interest in a Hzor a DBthere just what it sounds like. If they have a problem we are there straight away.

We have supplied amps and speakers in the middle of the night to keep customers happy even got on plane with a£5.00 horn driver get EV to dothat.

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